Mid Ohio Double & Super Tour - June 10-12th

The "Miata Epidemic" hasn't really made its way to the GLDiv Prod fields yet. :lol:


Here's the updated entry list. EP & GTL got a run on entries this week, but where are all the HP cars at? :think:
EP - 8 entries
1 - Pritchard, Justin - 1979 Mazda RX7 - Carriage & Motor Works/Hoosier Tyre - Granville, OH
09 - Martz, Gary - 1990 Mazda RX-7 Roadster - Kryderacing - Canton, OH
15 - Haupt, Brian - 1983 Mazda RX7 - Carriage & Motor Works - Spring Hill, KS
16 - Pritchard, Meredith - 1984 Mazda RX7 - Carriage & Motor Works - Granville, oh
50 - Carter, Randy - 2000 Lotus Caterham 7 - RPM Engineers/Titan Machine - Forest, VA
55 - Kosdrosky, Rick - 2000 Caterham Lotus Super 7 - Over Fifty Motorsports/Hoosier Tire/Summit Racing - Granbury, TX
83 - Halkias, Sam - 1975 Triumph TR6 - Catawba Island Marina - Westerville, OH
86 - Groot, Kevin - 1973 Porsche 914 - Raby's Aircooled Tech; HAM Inc.; CFR Racing - Dearborn, MI

FP - 11 entries
3 - Ruck, Kevin - 1990 Acura Integra - Hoosier/Honda Performance Development - Delaware, OH
4 - Morton, Peter - Lotus Super 7 - Creative Threads, Inc. - Milford, MI
5 - Walker, Joe - 1965 Lotus Super 7 - Walker Racing - Richland, MI
6 - Hinkle, Jerome - Lotus 7 Series IV - Element One Assoc. - Catonsville, MD
7 - Smith, James R - 1962 Lotus Super 7 - Over 50 Motorsports - Alvin, TX
12 - Lunder, Scott - 1993 Honda Civic - Mentor, OH
17 - Alderson, Ken - 1971 Opel GT - Westlake, OH
22 - Funk, Larry - 1991 Honda CRX si - Moto-Tec / HPD - Oberlin, OH
28 - Strittmatter, David - 1976 Lancia Scorpion - Akron, OH
52 - Workman, Mason - 1990 Mazda Miata - Hoosier/Mazdaspeed - Reynoldsburg, OH
97 - Prill, Eric - 1990 Mazda Miata - Jesse Prather Mtspts/Hoosier/OS Giken - Topeka, KS

HP - 2 entries
66 - Rogerson, James - 1984 Honda Civic - MSRHouston & Over 50 Racing - Pearland, TX
73 - Wills, Barry - 1983 Volkswagen GTI - Hilliard, OH

GTL - 4 entries
44 - Floyd, Bryan - Nissan Sentra - Kelly Chrysler/C&S Engraving - Clarion, PA
60 - Lentz II, Robert - Nissan Sentra SER - FGR/Auto Expectations/Goodyear - Chantilly, VA
87 - Pintaric, Bill - Nissan 200sx - Kryderacing;WRP Investments,Inc - Youngstown, OH
98 - LOPSHIRE, ROY - 1991 Toyota TERCEL - TRD, WILLIAMS RACING DEVELOPMENTS - Blue Springs, MO
 
Well if my car makes it thru NJMP unscathed I'll be adding to the FP Miata numbers. Should be fun.
Chris
 
Asked Bob Doernberg if he was coming with his Caterham because he owns #7 and he said yes, that he was entered, but he's never appeared on the list. So I picked another number (one I could also get at the Sprints) and what happens? Doc Smith enters my old car and takes #7! :doh:

Really looking forward to the race. Car is actually loaded and we're heading to Ohio tomorrow afternoon. Leaving the rig @ Mid-Ohio, spending some time at a reunion this weekend and then flying back out Friday of the race weekend.

Everyone had fun this weekend at Grattan this weekend and keep em in one piece for Mid-Ohio!
 
NEDiv Chrises (Patrick and Howard) are now on the list which brings FP to 13--second largest class of the weekend behind SRF (18) at this point.

Seriously, anyone interested in a split start? EP and FP cars seem to do damn near the same lap times in different ways. I'd be for it.
 
EPrill":2i5lb8w6 said:
Seriously, anyone interested in a split start? EP and FP cars seem to do damn near the same lap times in different ways. I'd be for it.
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I think it's at least worth asking the Stewards about, because like you said, EP & FP are often completely on top of eachother at Mid Ohio.

Can't wait for this event - praying for nice weather!
 
All FP Guys entered at Mid-Ohio. I sent you an email from eprill at earthlink dot net. If you didn't get it, please PM me your email address.

Thanks!
 
We're at 200 online entires now, with another 20-30 paper entries. Reminder that you have until 6pm EST Wednesday to register online. I haven't seen who the paper entries are, so who knows, there may be a couple more Prod cars thrown in there. Here's the current online entry list:

EP - 10 entries
1 - Pritchard, Justin - 1979 Mazda RX7 - Carriage & Motor Works/Hoosier Tyre - Granville, OH
09 - Martz, Gary - 1990 Mazda RX-7 Roadster - Kryderacing - Canton, OH
15 - Haupt, Brian - 1983 Mazda RX7 - Carriage & Motor Works - Spring Hill, KS
16 - Pritchard, Meredith - 1984 Mazda RX7 - Carriage & Motor Works - Granville, oh
31 - Helm, Michael - 1986 Toyota MR2 - H&H Racing - Union, OH
50 - Carter, Randy - 2000 Lotus Caterham 7 - RPM Engineers/Titan Machine - Forest, VA
55 - Kosdrosky, Rick - 2000 Caterham Lotus Super 7 - Over Fifty Motorsports/Hoosier Tire/Summit Racing - Granbury, TX
77 - Doernberg, Bob - Caterham 7 America - GDC Enterprises; Hoosier Tire; Summit Racing - Akron, OH
83 - Halkias, Sam - 1975 Triumph TR6 - Catawba Island Marina - Westerville, OH
86 - Groot, Kevin - 1973 Porsche 914 - Raby's Aircooled Tech; HAM Inc.; CFR Racing - Dearborn, MI

FP - 15 entries
01 - Feineigle, Lee - MG Midget - F & R Imports - Van Buren, OH
3 - Ruck, Kevin - 1990 Acura Integra - Hoosier/Honda Performance Development - Delaware, OH
4 - Morton, Peter - Lotus Super 7 - Creative Threads, Inc. - Milford, MI
5 - Walker, Joe - 1965 Lotus Super 7 - Walker Racing - Richland, MI
6 - Hinkle, Jerome - Lotus 7 Series IV - Element One Assoc. - Catonsville, MD
7 - Smith, James R - 1962 Lotus Super 7 - Over 50 Motorsports - Alvin, TX
9 - Walker, John - MG B - Walker Racing - Richland, MI
12 - Lunder, Scott - 1993 Honda Civic - Mentor, OH
14 - Patrick, Chris - Triumph Spitfire - Keystone Kustoms - Derry, PA
17 - Alderson, Ken - 1971 Opel GT - Westlake, OH
22 - Funk, Larry - 1991 Honda CRX si - Moto-Tec / HPD - Oberlin, OH
28 - Strittmatter, David - 1976 Lancia Scorpion - Akron, OH
52 - Workman, Mason - 1990 Mazda Miata - Hoosier/Mazdaspeed - Reynoldsburg, OH
88 - Howard, Christopher - Mazda Miata - Holliston, MA
97 - Prill, Eric - 1990 Mazda Miata - Jesse Prather Mtspts/Hoosier/OS Giken - Topeka, KS

HP - 5 entries
11 - Vickerman, Eric - 1960 Austin Sprite - KIM, Ty, Kasey, Mom and Dad - Ypsilanti, MI
66 - Rogerson, James - 1984 Honda Civic - MSRHouston & Over 50 Racing - Pearland, TX
71 - DeRonne, Tim - 1989 Ford Festiva - Doug, Meredith, and Craig - Southfield, MI
73 - Wills, Barry - 1983 Volkswagen GTI - Hilliard, OH
81 - Brydebell, Kevin - Nissan 510 - Gainesville, VA

GTL - 4 entries
06 - Hipp, Joel - 1966 Austin Mini - Norwalk, OH
44 - Floyd, Bryan - Nissan Sentra - Kelly Chrysler/C&S Engraving - Clarion, PA
60 - Lentz II, Robert - Nissan Sentra SER - FGR/Auto Expectations/Goodyear - Chantilly, VA
63 - Downey, Brian - Nissan 200sx - FGR/Auto Expectations - Bristow, VA
87 - Pintaric, Bill - Nissan 200sx - Kryderacing;WRP Investments,Inc - Youngstown, OH
98 - LOPSHIRE, ROY - 1991 Toyota TERCEL - TRD, WILLIAMS RACING DEVELOPMENTS - Blue Springs, MO
 
The Chief Steward has agreed to split start group 6. :applause:

We will be split in two groups - EP/GTL in one group and FP/HP in the other group. Fastest qualifier will dictate which group starts first. This should keep us out of each other's class races.
 
39 entries as of today. FP up to 17.

E Production 10 ENTRIES
# Name Group Year Make Sponsor Hometown
1 Pritchard, Justin Group 6 1979 Mazda RX7 Carriage & Motor Works/Hoosier Tyre Granville, OH
09 Martz, Gary Group 6 1990 Mazda RX-7 Roadster Kryderacing Canton, OH
15 Haupt, Brian Group 6 1983 Mazda RX7 Carriage & Motor Works Spring Hill, KS
16 Pritchard, Meredith Group 6 1984 Mazda RX7 Carriage & Motor Works Granville, oh
31 Helm, Michael Group 6 1986 Toyota MR2 H&H Racing Union, OH
50 Carter, Randy Group 6 2000 Lotus Caterham 7 RPM Engineers/Titan Machine Forest, VA
55 Kosdrosky, Rick Group 6 2000 Caterham Lotus Super 7 Over Fifty Motorsports/Hoosier Tire/Summit Racing Granbury, TX
77 Doernberg, Bob Group 6 Caterham 7 Anerica GDC Enterprises; Hoosier Tire; Summit Racing Akron, OH
83 Halkias, Sam Group 6 1975 Triumph TR6 Catawba island Marina Westerville, OH
86 Groot, Kevin Group 6 1973 Porsche 914 Raby's Aircooled Tech; HAM Inc.; CFR Racing Dearborn, MI

F Production 17 ENTRIES
# Name Group Year Make Sponsor Hometown
01 Feineigle, Lee Group 6 MG midget F & R Imports Van Buren, OH
3 Ruck, Kevin Group 6 1990 Acura Integra Hoosier/Honda Performance Development Delaware, OH
04 Ives, Steve Group 6 Mazda Miata Pearly Greats Jewelry Durand, MI
4 Morton, Peter Group 6 Lotus Super 7 Creative Threads, Inc. Milford, MI
5 Walker, Joe Group 6 1965 Lotus Super 7 Walker Racing Richland, MI
6 Hinkle, Jerome Group 6 Lotus 7 Series IV Element One Assoc. Catonsville, MD
7 Smith, James R Group 6 1962 Lotus Super 7 Over 50 Motorsports Alvin, TX
9 Walker, John Group 6 MG B Walker Racing Richland, MI
12 Lunder, Scott Group 6 1993 Honda Civic R&L Race Engines/HPD Mentor, OH
14 Patrick, Chris Group 6 Triumph Spitfire Keystone Kustoms Derry, PA
17 Alderson, Ken Group 6 1971 Opel GT Westlake, OH
22 Funk, Larry Group 6 1991 Honda CRX si Moto-Tec / HPD Oberlin, OH
28 Strittmatter, David Group 6 1976 Lancia Scorpion Akron, OH
41 Jacques, Ted Group 6 Mazda Miata Swartz Creek, MI
52 Workman, Mason Group 6 1990 Mazda Miata Hoosier/Mazdaspeed Reynoldsburg, OH
88 Howard, Christopher Group 6 Mazda Miata Holliston, MA
97 Prill, Eric Group 6 1990 Mazda Miata Jesse Prather Mtspts/Hoosier/OS Giken Topeka, KS

GT-Lite 6 ENTRIES
# Name Group Year Make Sponsor Hometown
06 Hipp, Joel Group 6 1966 Austin Mini Norwalk, OH
44 Floyd, Bryan Group 6 Nissan Sentra Kelly Chrysler/C&S Engraving Clarion, PA
60 Lentz II, Robert Group 6 Nissan Sentra SER FGR/Auto Expectations/Goodyear Chantilly, VA
63 Downey, Brian Group 6 Nissan 200sx FGR/Auto Expectations Bristow, VA
87 Pintaric, Bill Group 6 Nissan 200sx Kryderacing;WRP Investments,Inc Youngstown, OH
98 LOPSHIRE, ROY Group 6 1991 Toyota TERCEL TRD, WILLIAMS RACING DEVELOPMENTS Blue Springs, MO

H Production 6 ENTRIES
# Name Group Year Make Sponsor Hometown
02 Brannon, Matt Group 6 Fiat X1/9 Midwest Bayless Italian Auto Columbus, OH
11 Vickerman, Eric Group 6 1960 Austin Sprite KIM, Ty, Kasey, Mom and Dad Ypsilanti, MI
66 Rogerson, James Group 6 1984 Honda Civic MSRHouston & Over 50 Racing Pearland, TX
71 DeRonne, Tim Group 6 1989 Ford Festiva Doug, Meredith, and Craig Southfield, MI
73 Wills, Barry Group 6 1983 Volkswagen GTI Hilliard, OH
81 Brydebell, Kevin Group 6 Nissan 510 Gainesville, VA
 
Bite your tongue!

Sprints will be pushing 400 entries shortly.

The sad truth is that the 2 races are hurting each other, and should be scheduled at least 3 weeks apart. I'd love to go run Mido, but I can't do it and the Sprints, and I think that is effecting lots of people.

Unfortunately, the tracks (and historical precedent for the Sprints) dictate the dates, and if the only date Mido will give GLD is the weekend before the sprints, everyone suffers.

I'd love to see them a month apart, so you have a big June race, then a big July race at the 2 premier midwest tracks.

Scott
 
In some respects, I guess we could consider ourselves lucky that they aren't the same weekend! Neither race is on the same weekend it was held in 2010.
 
Competiton is a good thing.
Mid Ohio $550.00, its a double, 38 race laps, 90 min of P/Q. No PV, MH, or parking charge
that I can see in the supps.

June Sprints $360.00, its a single, 13 lap race, 75 min of P/Q + $25.00 PV charge + $75.00 Motorhome camping + $80.00 paved parking. Grand Total $540.00.

Its not the Sprints, but the best race is where is the best racers are. This is a no brainer for me.
 
I think I'll do both!

I realize that not everybody can swing it. I'm burning a week of vacation but it's a racer's paradise as far as I'm concerned with these two back-to-back.
 
Don't kid yourself Kevin, unless mido has done a 360 degree change with the new ownership, you will pay for pit vehicles and camping, so your costs are off.

You also left out 20k spectators and 50k or so in sponsorship payouts to the drivers. There will be a very large number of "best" drivers at the Sprints, so you are just making a biased troll comment.

Both events are awesome, but until mido pulls 400 drivers for the event, it's not "competition" between events.

It is, however, a drain on both to have them one week apart, unless you are one of the few who can take the time to do both.

My point is they shouldn't be in competition, because then everyone wins.
 
Current weather forecast:
Thursday - Scattered Strong Storms, 85°/63°, 50%
Friday - T-Showers, 79°/64°, 40%
Saturday - Scattered T-Storms, 79°/59°, 60%
Sunday - Partly Cloudy, 74°/57°, 20%

Looks like we might need to pack the rain tires. Also, from what they're saying around here for Thursday evening/night, I'd advise you to NOT setup any canopies or anything until Friday morning. I'm just glad it's supposed to cool off. Supposed to be 97 today, and the fifth day in a row over 90.



EPrill":bvarzsoe said:
I think I'll do both!
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That reminds me, I need to sign up.

Scott Sanda":bvarzsoe said:
Don't kid yourself Kevin, unless mido has done a 360 degree change with the new ownership, you will pay for pit vehicles and camping, so your costs are off.
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Huh? In my 11 years of doing SCCA events at Mid Ohio, I've never had to pay a pit vehicle fee or a camping/RV fee.

Scott Sanda":bvarzsoe said:
It is, however, a drain on both to have them one week apart, unless you are one of the few who can take the time to do both.

My point is they shouldn't be in competition, because then everyone wins.
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I'd agree with that, but the reality is that at these "bigger" tracks like Mid Ohio and Road America, the SCCA regions are hardly getting to pick and choose their race weekends; they're getting whatever is leftover.
 
Scott Sanda":2x5f3nk0 said:
Don't kid yourself Kevin, unless mido has done a 360 degree change with the new ownership, you will pay for pit vehicles and camping, so your costs are off.
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No, I am right. The runoffs yes, but not the national.

Scott Sanda":2x5f3nk0 said:
You also left out 20k spectators and 50k or so in sponsorship payouts to the drivers. There will be a very large number of "best" drivers at the Sprints, so you are just making a biased troll comment.
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I stopped bringing my souvenir trailer years ago. Last time I checked SCCA got $0 from the gate or concession so that is a money for RA and would have little impact on a decision between running MO or RA.
I am interested in the 50G though. If your interested in convincing me......If I were to win
EP. Laundry list what I am taking home in the trailer.

Scott Sanda":2x5f3nk0 said:
Both events are awesome, but until mido pulls 400 drivers for the event, it's not "competition" between events.
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To not see this race as competiton, I think is a mistake. Two big races so close are very much in competition with each other. You are competing for the same customers and it would appear Mid Ohio is the better value.

Scott Sanda":2x5f3nk0 said:
My point is they shouldn't be in competition, because then everyone wins.
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I would have to disagree with this statement. As a customer of a business, which I have been told I am over and over. Two big races in competition for my dollar is good for me. Its not good for the regions and their bank accounts, but as a customer my only goal is what I can get for my money.
Looking at this situation as a member of a club, my opinions change. I think it should be looked at like that but I was told I was wrong so I have no choice but to look at all this as a customer. Mid Ohio is the better deal.
 
Guys:

As they used to say when I lived in Texas, I don't have a dog in this hunt... (not yet a National license holder). But the back and forth comments are precisely why the club has problems/issues.

We should all be celebrating the fact that we have two outstanding venues, with what will be very competitive fields in EP, FP, HP, GTL, etc. Good for the drivers and good for the spectators.

The Sprints may be a bigger spectator draw (I suspect), but as a many event spectator back in the 70s and 80s (before I started driving), I personally used to enjoy the racing at MO just as much as at RA. Never found the Ohio equivalent of the Wisconsin brats though...

Rick
 
Kevin,

I stand corrected on the fee's. I do think it is nickle and dime pain in the rear, but I don't own the various tracks so I don't get to set policy.

I'll agree to disagree on the relative merits of the 2 events in terms of quality of drivers.

Yes RA gets the gate, and that irks me. Big spectator crowds are very cool to run in front of however.

Take a look at the sponsorship we have put together over the years, cash payouts, product, discount coupons. We got Northstar motorsports back this year, 20%, 15%. 10%, 10% discount coupon for 4th, 5th, 6th and last place in every field. If you are in need of a helmet, hans, suit, fire system, or any of the stuff they carry, that is worth $$$.

Prod is getting cash payouts, GT is getting cash payouts, etc. When at all possible, my philosophy has been to try and push the stuff down the result sheet, on the theory that the guys not on the podium have the biggest need.

I will disagree on the competition standpoint from a club and driver view however. The regions don't set entry fee's at excessive levels, they set them based on the track rental costs. Mido and RA are right up there. There is very little economic competition between races like these just due to that.

Win Win for me is both events get a big total field. In this specific case, competition is a detractor. The ultimate result is a winner and a looser, and if one event suffers to the point where they need to raise fees due to count, it starts a chain of badness. Enlightened self interest and cooperation is a better route.
 
Yup, We disagree.

By the way, I think you took my driver comment wrong. I was making no comment
of the quality of any specific driver at either event. Simply put, you can call an event
anything you want but the race is where the racers are. There could be a regional in New Jersey the same weekend as the sprints. If Sargis, Harris, Ruck, Carpenter, Prill, Kraftson etc etc show up in New Jersey. Guess where the best FP race is going to be? Thats all I was saying.

Best of Luck
 
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