KVRG - Double Majors Invitational - HPT July 14-15

Saturday results from livetiming

P No. CLS PIC DRIVER NAME NL DIFF LAPTIME GAP FL BESTIME LED BSPEED SPONSOR
1 34 EP 1 Jesse Prather 18 > 18 < 1:58.396 > 18 < 4 1:48.802 18 82.719
2 77 EP 2 Rick Kosdrosky 18 14.976 2:50.668 14.976 2 1:49.126 0 82.473
3 15 EP 3 Brian Haupt 18 15.405 2:51.050 0.429 2 1:50.610 0 81.367
4 6 EP 4 Charlie Clark 18 1:12.401 1:58.872 56.996 4 1:53.276 0 79.452
5 52 EP 5 Don Tucker 18 1:13.319 1:58.407 0.918 4 1:52.880 0 79.731
6 7 FP 1 Eric Prill 18 1:13.991 1:58.344 0.672 4 1:49.601 0 82.116
7 28 EP 6 Bill Allman 17 1LAP 2:50.415 1LAP 4 1:52.304 0 80.140
8 57 FP 2 Kyle Baker 17 1LAP 2:50.705 10.685 11 1:54.234 0 78.786
9 27 HP 1 Bob Eichelberger 17 1LAP 2:09.359 1:23.390 4 1:58.817 0 75.747
10 75 HP 2 Jack Schulz 17 1LAP 2:04.568 6.744 3 1:59.181 0 75.515
11 90 HP 3 Rob Horrell 16 120.601 2:29.114 13.041 3 1:56.943 0 76.961
12 70 EP 7 Brett Whitney 16 2LAPS 2:11.557 1:02.169 9 2:02.132 0 73.691
13 53 HP 4 Ralf Lindow 16 2LAPS 2:07.897 30.704 2 2:02.014 0 73.762
14 82 FP 3 Frank Fisher 16 2LAPS 2:21.358 28.215 4 1:58.481 0 75.962
15 25 FP 4 Mark Weber 14 > 14 < 2:11.589 25.137 2 1:51.002 0 81.080
16 23 EP 8 Chuck Davis 14 4LAPS 3:01.493 9:00.505 3 1:55.521 0 77.908
17 4 EP 9 Steven Burkett 8 > 8 < 9:50.866 4LAPS 2 1:55.507 0 77.917
18 86 FP 5 Randy Wagner 5 > 5 < 1:55.738 2LAPS 1 1:54.475 0 78.620
19 18 EP 10 Chuck Clark 2 > 2 < 2:13.964 2LAPS 1 1:51.742 0 80.543
20 8 FP 6 Rick Harris --- > 0 < --.--- 2LAPS --- No Time 0 0.000
21 64 EP 11 Steve Bachenberg --- --.--- --- No Time 0 0.000
 
Sunday results from LiveTiming:

P No. CLS PIC DRIVER NAME NL DIFF LAPTIME GAP FL BESTIME LED BSPEED SPONSOR
1 34 EP 1 Jesse Prather 18 > 18 < 2:06.126 > 18 < 3 1:47.395 18 83.803
2 7 FP 1 Eric Prill 18 0.077 1:54.227 0.077 2 1:48.369 0 83.050
3 77 EP 2 Rick Kosdrosky 18 8.545 1:57.138 8.468 2 1:48.801 0 82.720
4 15 EP 3 Brian Haupt 18 29.761 1:56.074 21.216 7 1:51.315 0 80.852
5 6 EP 4 Charlie Clark 18 32.505 1:56.013 2.744 2 1:49.885 0 81.904
6 28 EP 5 Bill Allman 18 48.920 2:02.085 16.415 5 1:51.218 0 80.922
7 8 FP 2 Rick Harris 18 58.805 2:02.438 9.885 6 1:50.448 0 81.486
8 25 FP 3 Mark Weber 18 1:40.100 1:56.478 41.295 4 1:50.630 0 81.352
9 57 FP 4 Kyle Baker 18 1:45.208 1:57.987 5.108 1 1:54.607 0 78.529
10 23 EP 6 Chuck Davis 17 1LAP 2:00.633 23.950 2 1:56.565 0 77.210
11 4 EP 7 Steven Burkett 17 1LAP 2:03.335 12.505 2 1:56.436 0 77.296
12 82 FP 5 Frank Fisher 17 1LAP 2:01.103 47.676 2 1:58.754 0 75.787
13 75 HP 1 Jack Schulz 17 1LAP 2:01.582 4.489 3 1:59.867 0 75.083
14 90 HP 2 Rob Horrell 16 2LAPS 2:06.141 1:05.884 1 2:01.524 0 74.059
15 70 EP 8 Brett Whitney 16 2LAPS 2:07.903 4.443 4 2:03.926 0 72.624
16 53 HP 3 Ralf Lindow 16 2LAPS 2:11.357 14.717 2 2:01.706 0 73.949
17 27 HP 4 Bob Eichelberger 10 > 10 < 2:26.925 4LAPS 4 1:59.401 0 75.376
18 86 FP 6 Randy Wagner --- > 0 < --.--- 10LAPS --- No Time 0 0.000
19 52 EP 9 Don Tucker --- --.--- --- No Time 0 0.000
20 18 EP 10 Chuck Clark --- --.--- --- No Time 0 0.000


Looks like there was a Team Tokepa/JPM photo opt at the finish line.
 
Great weekend, lots of production cars. Loved the impound all and visiting with all of the production car drivers and seeing all of the cars together. Even did a proper tech with the whistler on the winners and checking all sorts of bits. Excellent presentation Saturday night with the dinner at the Combat Air Museum. HPT track surface is a bit more abrasive on tires but a good time had by all!
 
The track is slower than it used to be. Some of that has to do with the heat, some of that is the fact that the track just doesn't have the grip anymore and it's a bit rougher in places.
 
R. J. Sorensen":3lkl9vls said:
Curious as to how many total entries were at this "Majors" event?

RJS
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I'd bet that it wasn't enough to fill a full size school bus.

But the good news is that we all get to share the debit incurred by these money loser events and we all get to pay the employees hired just to support them, even if we aren't invited. :roll:

-Kyle
 
It was a double so it's like having 120 entries. For most races that would be enough for break even. Entry was $450.
 
racingspridget wrote:

"The vintage race at Road America had 450+ entries last weekend".

This shouldn't concern the SCCA. Few of them are classified to run in SCCA.

Great feeder system!

RJS
 
Bobby Lentz":362ge422 said:
It was a double so it's like having 120 entries. For most races that would be enough for break even. Entry was $450.
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The entry fees for the double were $450. So it was not like having 120 entries. It was 57 entries at $450 (assuming everyone ran the double - which I'm sure they didn't). $450 is only slightly higer than the average national entry fee and given the additional expense of running a Majors event, any additional revenue (from the $450 entry fee being higher than average) is easily consumed, and more.

-Kyle
 
R. J. Sorensen":398zzith said:
This shouldn't concern the SCCA. Few of them are classified to run in SCCA.
RJS
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It would be very interesting to know how many of the event entries are past SCCA folks.

I can say that a past H production national champ raced his Datsun 510 in a vintage race class at Road America that would be vary similar to SCCA F production. A couple tweeks and the car would be SCCA F production level 1 legal. And the car is at the pointy end in either org.

We loose some here & some there & they ALL really are missed.
 
R. J. Sorensen":3s420lyp said:
WOW!

Wonder what that cost SCCA members to subsidize?

RJS
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Not sure how much it has cost so far, but I heard that $80,000 has already been earmarked for 2013. Not sure how how reliable the information is though.
 
VWRalf":33xoirok said:
R. J. Sorensen":33xoirok said:
WOW!

Wonder what that cost SCCA members to subsidize?

RJS
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Not sure how much it has cost so far, but I heard that $80,000 has already been earmarked for 2013. Not sure how how reliable the information is though.
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The current "pilot" program must be considered a success. My understanding is the Majors program is being expanded to all divisions for 2013. The 2012 program was only in a Southwest, Midwest and Rocky Mountain divisions. Just like any other product you introduce it in a limited market, gauge its success before spending huge capital to expand it to all markets. With a roll out of this product club wide for 2013, the 2012 pilot must have been successfull. Surely the Office and the BOD wouldn't expand a failed concept putting club funds at risk, if the "pilot" had failed. You would have to be a business/marketing idiot. There must be stuff behind the scenes that deems this program a success and worthy of further club investment.
 
VWRalf":3c5j7vu3 said:
Not sure how much it has cost so far, but I heard that $80,000 has already been earmarked for 2013. Not sure how how reliable the information is though.
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Not sure where you got those figures. I think that there is some "interesting" accounting going on in Topeka from the conversations I've had with BOD members, but the just staff they've hired thus far will have cost double that by the end of 2012. Either that or the club has a magic wand that gets people to work for half of national averages with no benefits while using no office resources while paying their own travel expenses.

Where is Matt Weisberg when you need him most? Is there a "Matt Weisberg Signal" on the top of a building somewhere we can switch on?

-Kyle

BTW: Kevin, my sarcasm meter suddenly exploded while reading your post.
 
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