HANS Recertification

That is great if you have the SFI tag. I got mine before they started putting the SFI sticker on so I have to send mine in to get certified.
 
The way I read that and have read people interpret it on other race sites is that those of us who were early adopters of the HANS that only have an FIA sticker are OK and need to take no action at all.

Mine is a very early one and has only an FIA sticker and thats what I intend to do,,, nothing.

Soon these SFI thugs will have us replacing suits and gloves yearly.
What a racket they have suckered these clubs into.

Cheers
jimmy
 
With another motorsport group that I am involved in, SFI was telling them to have their drivers to start wearing SFI H&N. SFI was saying it was needed due to increased insurance costs. Their insurance writer said no need. Funny thing is the organization did not require a roll cage for some of the classes and only require a lap belt so no place for the H&N to be mounted too. Then for the classes that do require cages they do not require basic roll bar padding but still wanted them to wear a H&N. I was saying the organization needed to do the basics first before requiring a H&N.

As someone told me years ago, SFI stands for Some F&*king Idiot.

BTW, I support the use of H&N with in racing. When I started back racing it was one of the first things I purchased.
 
Hey fellas. Quick question- do the rules say it HAS to be a Hans device or can it be any other readily available H&N restraint system?
 
Didn't SCCA require SFI 38.1 devices just a few years ago?
I bought a Hans without SFI sticker, had the sticker installed. Now, if I hadn't put the SFI sticker on it I would not require re-inspection?

This is like the SCCA fuel cell requirement but does not inspect for expiration date.

Great.
 
The requiremet for SFI 38.1 is effective 1/1/2012. Through 2011 there is no requirement for H&N Restraint.
 
Rob,

back in '05 or '06 the use of H&N was "recommended or encouraged".
I do seem to remember that at some point if you decided to use one it must have been SFI approved.

No longer an issue, John
 
Recertification of any SFI spec product is NOT required by SCCA.

This was announced emphatically at this November's NEDiv Mini-Con by members of the SCCA BOD during an open forum session. Any items listed in the GCR as needing to meet an SFI standard will not need to be recertified to stay in compliance even if recertification is required as part of the SFI standard.
 
Jay Lutz":3eobmovc said:
For those folks with HANS devices older than 5 years (like mine) no need to get a recert yet. Finally something that is logical and makes sense.

http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/assets/RM_11-10.pdf
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We called HANS and gave them the number on the HANS and they said it was re-certifiable and we sent it down along with the $50 coupon we got from running their decal on our car at the runoffs and received it back in less than a week with a new label on it and totally up to date. They are a nice company to deal with.
 
racerbob4":1r3hf6di said:
Jay Lutz":1r3hf6di said:
For those folks with HANS devices older than 5 years (like mine) no need to get a recert yet. Finally something that is logical and makes sense.

http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/assets/RM_11-10.pdf
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We called HANS and gave them the number on the HANS and they said it was re-certifiable and we sent it down along with the $50 coupon we got from running their decal on our car at the runoffs and received it back in less than a week with a new label on it and totally up to date. They are a nice company to deal with.
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Yeah. Nice folks that are part of a trade organization requiring competition limiting, completely unnecessary recertification, and then covering said unnecessary recertification if you provide them with free advertising. Inevitable I guess but let's call it what it is and it's not nice

Kudos to SCCA for not requiring the recert
 
Curtis":17bn8d48 said:
Yeah. Nice folks that are part of a trade organization requiring competition limiting, completely unnecessary recertification, and then covering said unnecessary recertification if you provide them with free advertising. Inevitable I guess but let's call it what it is and it's not nice

Kudos to SCCA for not requiring the recert
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+1 Kudos to SCCA for having some balls to stand against SFI and say "thats stupid" like they did with the window nets.
You wont see any stickers on my car for HANS or any other SFI org. (well other than my required SCCA ones).
 
Dave Patten":4kmt5usg said:
Recertification of any SFI spec product is NOT required by SCCA.

This was announced emphatically at this November's NEDiv Mini-Con by members of the SCCA BOD during an open forum session. Any items listed in the GCR as needing to meet an SFI standard will not need to be recertified to stay in compliance even if recertification is required as part of the SFI standard.
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Dave
While I think I know what they are saying, there are so many holes and wrong ways to take this statement that I would not want it circulated.
It could be inferred by the above statement that SFI 16.1 seat belts (good for two years) have NO expiration date.

This ranks right up there with Ronald Reagan saying on national television "Facts are stupid things." Which he did actually say and regretted it for years.

My hope is that the person or persons making this statement were referring only to Head and Neck Restraints.

cheers
dave parker
 
My hope would be that the absolutely silly requirement to replace belts every two years WOULD be included in this statement, although I'm sure it's not. I applaud the decision regarding HANS re-certification, and wish this rare outbreak of common sense would spread.

James Wiley
#72 HP Midget
 
dave parker":19lplhlj said:
Dave Patten":19lplhlj said:
Recertification of any SFI spec product is NOT required by SCCA.

This was announced emphatically at this November's NEDiv Mini-Con by members of the SCCA BOD during an open forum session. Any items listed in the GCR as needing to meet an SFI standard will not need to be recertified to stay in compliance even if recertification is required as part of the SFI standard.
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Dave
While I think I know what they are saying, there are so many holes and wrong ways to take this statement that I would not want it circulated.
It could be inferred by the above statement that SFI 16.1 seat belts (good for two years) have NO expiration date.

This ranks right up there with Ronald Reagan saying on national television "Facts are stupid things." Which he did actually say and regretted it for years.

My hope is that the person or persons making this statement were referring only to Head and Neck Restraints.

cheers
dave parker
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IMO, the comment was directed at the SFI standards with expiration/recertification requirements within the standard’s wording (H&N devices, fire systems, etc) that did not have a specific “end of use” policy written in the GCR.

The GCR states certain equipment must meet SFI standards and in most cases does not discuss any “end of use” for that equipment. If an SFI standard includes an “end of use” policy within its wording and the GCR does not state any exceptions to the standard, then the wording of the SFI standard should be administered without exception.

If “end of use” policies written within standards are not to be used by SCCA , then the GCR should specifically state that.
 
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