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 Post subject: Fuel mix?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:41 am 
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Anyone use this?; https://racerpartswholesale.com/race-ga ... ffded779d6

This might be large enough to actually work, if it contains the real stuff.

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel mix?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:59 am 
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So it costs $38.95 plus the $10 for 4 gallons of premium for a total of $48.95 so your paying $12.50 a gallon what I'll call Home Brew fuel. Nope


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 Post subject: Re: Fuel mix?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:00 am 
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Disregarding the math . I could use this for taking cars to the dyno when I only need 4-5 gals. I was simply asking if it works , not if it makes sense.

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel mix?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:30 am 
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call me skeptical again.. not knowing what's in it (and not being a petrochemist), what's the difference between 110 octane REAL race gas, and 93 octane pump gas with massive amount of 'octane booster'? Is it simply an overpriced can of toluene, or is it something else more complex and more resembles the chemistry of proper race fuel?

Back to the saying everyone repeats-- you should dyno and race on the same fuel. does not make sense to mix up something special only for the dyno when 4-5 gallons doesn't cost much money in the grand scheme of things.

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel mix?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:56 pm 
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Will the "octane-in-a-can" mix pass SCCA's fuel test procedures?

RJS


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 Post subject: Re: Fuel mix?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:22 am 
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R. J. Sorensen wrote:
Will the "octane-in-a-can" mix pass SCCA's fuel test procedures?

RJS


If you visit http://race-gas.com/ and scroll down the very long home page, eventually you get to a section titled CONTENTS. Here they discuss what goes into the product. Although they don't say how much of each component is used, the important item for the purposes of answering this question is that they rely upon MMT. If you examine the restricted compounds table in GCR 9.3.25.A (page 78 in the February 2019 edition), you will see that no more than 0.05 gm/gal is permitted. This is not enough MMT to make a significant difference in fuel octane or performance, so I think it is clear that the result of using this product would be a non-compliant fuel.

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel mix?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:01 am 
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Thanks Dave. Does the rest of the content list lead you to believe the octane may be in the stated range?

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel mix?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:05 pm 
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I'd be curious as to how they ship this stuff ....and I thought I once heard that the so called "octane boast" that you buy at the local auto parts store
is not well tolerated by the foam in our fuel cells.

Is this stuff that much different?

Tom B.


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 Post subject: Re: Fuel mix?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:12 pm 
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I have serviced old Jags for years. Many owners hate how the car would shut off, dieseling and puffing back out the carbs. The 104 Octane boost was the only one that stopped this among the 4or 5 options at the time. From then on that was the only boost that I used.

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel mix?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:45 am 
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Protech Racing wrote:
Thanks Dave. Does the rest of the content list lead you to believe the octane may be in the stated range?

There is no way to tell because a) they don't say what oxygenate they are using, nor how much, and b) how much MMT they are using. On the other hand, I have no reason to doubt the claim, if used as directed.

But, let me offer this: the reason the various substances that appear in the GCR table are in the table in the first place is because either the substances are inherently dangerous or can affect health, or those substances produce combustion by products that can affect health. Do you want to take the risk of using this product? If I was contemplating using something like this, I'd want to see an MSDS sheet. BTW, the risk is not only to the user, but to others who are exposed to the combustion by products. Do you recall the days of not being able to stand on the grid without choking or having your eyes tear up? [For those of you who don't know me, I led the effort to create that table and the related testing when I was on the CRB with the help of Dave Badger.]

Dave


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