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 Post subject: Re: Another racer cost
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:45 am 
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VWRalf wrote:
Interesting that the pros get the systems for free.

http://gotransam.com/news/Audible-Flagg ... tem-/67733


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“This reflects our absolute commitment to safety,” said Tony Parella, majority owner of the Trans Am Series. “We (Trans Am) are providing this to our race teams free of charge."

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 Post subject: Re: Another racer cost
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:50 am 
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David Dewhurst wrote:
VWRalf wrote:
Interesting that the pros get the systems for free.

http://gotransam.com/news/Audible-Flagg ... tem-/67733


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“This reflects our absolute commitment to safety,” said Tony Parella, majority owner of the Trans Am Series. “We (Trans Am) are providing this to our race teams free of charge."


Is it really free when the Trans Am guys are paying $1500+ a race entry?

Would love to see this trickle down to the Club level some day.

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 Post subject: Re: Another racer cost
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:17 pm 
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Jason@SportsCar wrote:
David Dewhurst wrote:
VWRalf wrote:
Interesting that the pros get the systems for free.

http://gotransam.com/news/Audible-Flagg ... tem-/67733


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“This reflects our absolute commitment to safety,” said Tony Parella, majority owner of the Trans Am Series. “We (Trans Am) are providing this to our race teams free of charge."


Is it really free when the Trans Am guys are paying $1500+ a race entry?

Would love to see this trickle down to the Club level some day.


Jason, I know the guy very well who finished 2nd in Trans Am (TA) for 2019 and because of this friend I have very good knowledge of the costs of Trans Am racing. Thanks anyway.

On a sarcastic note, if drivers don't acknowledge the yellow light any better than they acknowledge yellow flags, what's the value of the yellow light, a feel good for those in charge.

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 Post subject: Re: Another racer cost
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:48 pm 
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http://www.nevermissaflag.com

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 Post subject: Re: Another racer cost
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:52 pm 
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I'm pretty sure most of the local dirt tracks use something similar to this, My shop neighbor has commented they have a flag lighting system in the cars and those guys react pretty fast when those flags come out

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 Post subject: Re: Another racer cost
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:39 am 
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You light up a big, flashing, yellow blob of light like they have at Daytona it would take an almost blind driver not to see it. You don't have to look right at them... the glare is plenty enough to get your attention. Question: are we going to have to put alternators in our cars or are the in car lights a low draw unit?

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 Post subject: Re: Another racer cost
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:21 am 
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There probably LED's which draw little amperage.


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 Post subject: Re: Another racer cost
PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:35 pm 
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VWRalf wrote:
I wouldn't mind having a system like that as long as one isn't required to use just one companies device. There needs to be some competitive companies to keep costs down. Just look at used prices of AMB transponders to give you an idea of what i'm talking about.


Bingo. We have a winner. I've had enough of the AMB fiasco. We don't need another greedy monopoly with a crappy product. Someday maybe end users and race organizations can organize around only purchasing these types of systems from companies without proprietary software allowing free market competition between suppliers.

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 Post subject: Re: Another racer cost
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:15 am 
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I find it hard to believe that there is any debate on this other than the cost models. Is this how the HANS discussion went down a few years ago??

This is coming eventually, the pros use it now so the trickle down will happen.

What method will be used is another story. It could be a box with a light on the dash, head up display on the windshield, or heads up display inside your helmet visor like an apache pilot.

The goal is safety for corner workers AND drivers, not to replace corner workers. If you can red flag an entire field in 30 seconds because a car is upside down and on fire in the middle of a track, the corner workers can respond that much quicker when they are sure they wont get mowed down by a car that missed the flag.


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 Post subject: Re: Another racer cost
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:54 am 
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On the other hand, last I raced with Midwestern Council of Sports Car Clubs, they have more cars to a race than does SCCA regional races. No H&N restraint required, doubtful they'll ever have a similar light system and no requirement to pay entry fee until you arrive with no late fee. Their goal is to get cars to the track and have low pressure days at the track for their CUSTOMERS.

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