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 Post subject: Laguna Seca thoughts
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:01 pm 
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Got Laguna seca off my bucket list 2 weeks ago and I must say that at least in a small production car I was WAY underwhelmed. Super low speed overall, only 1 blind corner, textbook corners mostly, no high speed stuff at all......sure the corkscrew was different but I could not relive the same kind of thrill from tracks like VIR uphill esses, Barber blind corners and jumps, Watkins Glen 2 AND 3, Nelson Ledges brutal high speed, Road America kink, road atlanta bottom of the front half esses and last corner etc, etc.


For those who disagree and love it...….what did I miss? Maybe a 71 horsepower classic mini cooper neutered the experience for me and I need to return with more grunt.


Thx, Jay

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 Post subject: Re: Laguna Seca thoughts
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:10 pm 
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Jay Lutz wrote:
Got Laguna seca off my bucket list 2 weeks ago and I must say that at least in a small production car I was WAY underwhelmed. Super low speed overall, only 1 blind corner, textbook corners mostly, no high speed stuff at all......sure the corkscrew was different but I could not relive the same kind of thrill from tracks like VIR uphill esses, Barber blind corners and jumps, Watkins Glen 2 AND 3, Nelson Ledges brutal high speed, Road America kink, road atlanta bottom of the front half esses and last corner etc, etc.


For those who disagree and love it...….what did I miss? Maybe a 71 horsepower classic mini cooper neutered the experience for me and I need to return with more grunt.


Thx, Jay


Norcal tracks in general are slower than what you see in the East, or even Socal. However, they make up for it in elevation changes, and technically challenging corners. Not sure what you consider a fast turn, but Turn 6 is certainly fast, and a high risk/high reward corner. Turn 4 claims a lot of cars even though it is not "fast". Both 9 and 10 are deceptively quick.

I would guess a B-Spec car laps Laguna faster than a vintage Mini.

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 Post subject: Re: Laguna Seca thoughts
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:13 pm 
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Plenty of MW and east coast tracks with lots of similar elevation changes. I just expected more.

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 Post subject: Re: Laguna Seca thoughts
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:42 pm 
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Jay Lutz wrote:
Plenty of MW and east coast tracks with lots of similar elevation changes. I just expected more.
My feelings on Laguna are about the same.. One you jump the corkscrew twice you are pretty well done. I liked the rest of the track as it flowed well and was generally fast and fun. Underwhelmed is a good word for all the hype I was told about for years.... Now Sears is a different story. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Laguna Seca thoughts
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:16 pm 
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Jay, what lap times were you running in your vintage mini?

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 Post subject: Re: Laguna Seca thoughts
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:34 pm 
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Laguna lost its thrill factor when they changed the course for the bikes. If you missed, I think it was turn 2, on the old course at the bottom of the hill, you could wind up in Salinas. Same for Road Atlanta, when they changed turns 5, the dip and 11, the pucker factor was gone. Those turns could be car "right off" turns.


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 Post subject: Re: Laguna Seca thoughts
PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:36 am 
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Best lap by another driver was 2:01. Car died early Saturday afternoon so neither of us (Jay or me) got quality time in an unfamiliar car.


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 Post subject: Re: Laguna Seca thoughts
PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:56 pm 
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I think the track sweeper does better than a 2:01 at Laguna...


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 Post subject: Re: Laguna Seca thoughts
PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:24 pm 
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AHA! I thought that was a Lemons car passing me........


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 Post subject: Re: Laguna Seca thoughts
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:36 pm 
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For reference, the World Superbikes run 1:22s around there. Probably exciting when you're going 40 seconds / lap faster on a bike. :shock:

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