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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:55 pm 
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Hi All,

I'm considering going vintage racing in a group 90's class. (ie: cars from 1974 to 1990) Which car would be the most fun, reliable, and fast between a Miata, VW Golf (16v or 8v) or Civic?

Thanks for your input.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:21 pm 
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Any of those depending on which one you currently own.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:44 pm 
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that's the thing, I don't own any of them right now. I'm trying to figure which would be best.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:11 pm 
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If you were to race SVRA, Mazda supports a race series called Mazda Miata Heritage Cup. Just a few weeks ago SVRA was at Road America, IIRC the normal entry fee was $650.00 without test day. The entry fee for the Heritage Cup entry including test day was $325.00 Mazda picks of the remainder. Double check my entry fee costs. You could also race this Miata in the SCCA or NASA Spec Miata class. 1990-2005 Miata. Restrictor plate in the 1.8 engines to make parity across all 1.6 and 1.8 engines. I know a guy who has a first class 1990 build for sale with a total of 13 races on said car. $12,000.00, Pro engine, Mazda Comp limited slip weight without driver 2020 pounds, class weight for 1.6 is 2275 pounds.

https://svra.com/news/mazdas-miata-heri ... 18-season/

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:04 am 
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Thanks David for your input. I was not aware of this program with SVRA and Mazda.

One point for the Miata :D


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:34 am 
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Terrible suspension on the VW, strut and twist beam, no easy way to fix. Motors aren't very powerful. The cylinder heads suck compared to the Civic stuff. Honda parts interchange easily for big power. VW will never make the power without being a grenade.

What kind of rules do you have to deal with?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:30 am 
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thanks for the feed back on the VWs. I would most probably be racing with my local club who is pretty relaxed about the rules.

So between the 3 choices, with all being equal, which would be fastest?


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You are asking way to general a question.

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What organization are you planning on running with, and do they have a set of rules posted somewhere?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:02 pm 
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vwmg wrote:
thanks for the feed back on the VWs. I would most probably be racing with my local club who is pretty relaxed about the rules.

So between the 3 choices, with all being equal, which would be fastest?


That’s just it.....they aren’t equal. Take the Miata......there are LP and FP motors, 1.6 and 1.8L, injected and carbs, FP and LP chassis....and that’s just in Prod. Then there’s STU, STL, GTL, GT3, T4 to consider. And there are just as many permutations of VWs (Jetta, Golf, Rabbit, Scirocco) and Hondas too.

There are sooooo many considerations in choosing a race car. Speed is just one of those variables. Is chassis A easier or less time consuming to work on than chassis B? Are parts easier to find? Are any raced in your area? The greatest car in the world isn’t any fun to race if parts are impossible to find and there’s no support for it. For instance, one of the reasons I chose a Sprite was that there were a lot of them locally and I could gain expertise and parts from that network of friends.

So do some homework, narrow your focus and your questions will have more meaning to the crowd here.

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