prodracing.com

Unofficial SCCA Production Racing Forum
It is currently Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:19 pm

All times are UTC - 8 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 7 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 11:17 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2003 3:13 pm
Posts: 1085
Location: St. Louis, MO
Each October, between 1 and up to 4 of the 13 SCCA Directors are up for election or re-election. Most of us don't consider this as a weighty decision, but from my first hand experience, it should be the most important SCCA decision you make.

Let me tell you a story ...

In 2007 I ran for the Board of Directors. I lost in a three person race to Lisa Noble of Manhattan, KS back in 2007. Lisa got about 400+ votes while myself and Chuck Clark each got about 300+ votes. I knew Lisa was the wrong person for the job because she is 90% ego driven. Lisa went on to eventually chair the Board of Directors; lead a vote to remove the then current SCCA President (2013); temporarily assumed the SCCA President's position (2013); and then, without even having the minimum job skill requirement, she, with the help of Bill Kephart and Mike Lewis (both on the Board) managed to talk a majority of the Board to elect Lisa SCCA President!! [even though I loudly reminded everything that 1) she's not qualified and 2) she should be recused] .....

If 100 of those people who voted for Lisa in 2007 had voted another way, she would not have been able to do the damage that she did. Think about that when you vote.

SAME for the voters who elected Mike Lewis and Bill Kephart. As the three of them (Noble/Kephart/Lewis) built the Majors program, both Kephart's Division (Rocky Mountain) and Noble's Divisions (Midwest) lost about 40-50% of their licensed Club Race driver. The Majors first ran off all of the Improved Touring cars, which amounted to 15-20% of our weekend race entries in the middle of the country. Think about that..

WHAT should a candidate for SCCA's Board of Directors look like? First off, I do not care if they are SOLO, Race, Road Rally, RallyX, PDX or whatever. I want them first and foremost to understand and live customer service. "More Service, Less Ego". Second I want someone with strong business experience, someone who understands what the customer wants and can understand what is a good place to spend money and what is not. Third, they need to be patient. Being on the Board is an exercise in patience, because you are going to have the blowhards like Lewis, Kephart, and you'll have the completely clueless. Fourth, you need to have someone on the board with legal, ethical and practical experience. And lastly, you have to have people on the Board willing to make tough decisions and not worried about what their friends on the Board will think. This ain't high school.

Let me tell you a second story about the 2014 Board of Directors....

I ran and won in 2013 to replace Lisa Noble. I immediately called her and told her she could not run for SCCA President (because she had voted to oust the past SCCA President a month before). She agreed that it would be unethical to remove and officer and then to take his paid position. [Unethical, but it happened.]

So after Lisa Noble, with the help of Bill Kephart and Mike Lewis, convinced the others on the Board to elect her President, the discussion of contract had to be brought up. Kephart wanted a multi-year contract to "give her enough time to grow into the position." I snapped back saying it should be "month to month". The Board decided on a 1-year contract, but ...... left the contract up to the treasurer. At the next Board meeting we were asked to ratify a contract. I WANTED TO SEE IT FIRST. John Walsh, the Chairman of the Board said "NO". So the 2014 Board voted on a contract for an unqualified President that none of them (Except for the Treasurer) saw. AND no one but me saw this was wrong?? Or had the balls to bring it up??

So think about that, 13 people voting on a contract. I voted "no" because I could not see the terms. But about 8 people voted in favor of Lisa Noble's President's contract based on reassurances from the Treasurer that is was "OK". A few years later I got to see what the contract was....... It was not pretty for SCCA members.

Idiots, sheep, and ego driven people make these kinds of decisions, decisions that ultimately spend your membership dollars. Be VERY CAREFUL and do your homework before you vote for the next Director. By my count, the Lisa Noble debacle cost the club about $1M.

Peter

_________________
RE St. Louis SCCA
#45 GTLite Nissan 200SX
2008 GTLite Nat'l Champ
2009 "Got my butt kicked"


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 12:34 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Aug 18, 2002 6:16 pm
Posts: 5371
Location: Oregon City, Or.
I'll add this... You have to find good candidates!!!! and convince them to run for the good of the club. I am actively working on a couple of real business leaders that get it!!

_________________
Joe Harlan Member #175515


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 3:55 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:47 pm
Posts: 27
Peter

I am happy you have seen the light but at the time you said nothing about what was going on ,,,,,,Why is that?,,, were your eyes a little glazed over by
the majesty of it all too?? You should have been broadcasting it to everyone in every way you could think of.

rick haynes


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 5:38 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Aug 24, 2002 7:30 am
Posts: 636
Location: Syracuse, New York
Good for you Peter :D


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:16 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2003 3:13 pm
Posts: 1085
Location: St. Louis, MO
rick haynes wrote:
Peter
.....
You should have been broadcasting it to everyone in every way you could think of.

rick haynes


Yes, you are correct. BIG mistake on my part.

I thought I could convince the Board to do what was right. Turns out I couldn't.
Peter

_________________
RE St. Louis SCCA
#45 GTLite Nissan 200SX
2008 GTLite Nat'l Champ
2009 "Got my butt kicked"


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 9:06 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:08 am
Posts: 585
Location: Atlanta, Ga
Don't be afraid to ask questions of a candidate. And now with various forums, it should be easy to get answers. I don't approve of attacks on forums but real questions should be answered. And if you don't know a candidate, ask until you feel satisfied about whether they deserve your support.

I do believe we have made great strides since the era Peter speaks about here. The BOD is much more open now and seems to want to address most concerns. But, not everything can be fixed overnight. I can assure you that my two SEDiv Directors are always open and have never side stepped my questions. And I've asked somethings that would have been side stepped just a few years ago.

_________________
Jim Creighton
CARS Tour DoR
SEDiv SARRC Administrator
V8 Road Racing Series Administrator
Runoffs Line Chief Tech Prod cars


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 3:54 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2004 3:31 pm
Posts: 662
Bravo Peter for letting us know. Thanks


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 7 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 8 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 6 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group